[modem/router] Noticing a pattern... Net connectivity drops inte - Verizon DSL (2024)

emccarron
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emccarron

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2010-Jan-26 11:47 pm

[modem/router] Noticing a pattern... Net connectivity drops inte

...rmittently...

I don't seem to be the only one having this prob, which makes me feel a bit better. [modem/router] Noticing a pattern... Net connectivity drops inte - Verizon DSL (1) Net drops a few times a night. DSL light on Westell 7500 stays lit. Internet light goes out.

Status says "connection pending."

Verizon tells me to cycle power on modem -- a solution I find unacceptable.

Xcvr status -- seems the same up or down:

Transceiver Revision A2pB020b3.d20h
Vendor ID Code 4D54
Line Mode ADSL_2plus
Data PathFAST

Transceiver InformationDown Stream PathUp Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec)3358863
Margin (dB)11.617.2
Line Attenuation (dB)25.010.5
Transmit Power (dBm)8.412.4

If I wait 5 or 10 minutes, it comes back. Typically, with a new IP address.

Wiring seems physically clean - I ran a new shielded cat 3 from the nid to the modem, and placed a single filter on the rest of the house at the demarc -- I work on phone systems for a living and know enough to be dangerous. [modem/router] Noticing a pattern... Net connectivity drops inte - Verizon DSL (2)

Any ideas?

· actions · 2010-Jan-26 11:47 pm ·

emccarron

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2010-Jan-27 7:30 am

Re: [modem/router] Noticing a pattern... Net connectivity drops

Adding some info...

Looking at OpenDNS's IP changelog, today for example, I've had 6 different IPs between 3am and 7am.

Seems excessive.

On the plus side, I've taught my wife to reboot from the browser to save me a trip to modem each time. [modem/router] Noticing a pattern... Net connectivity drops inte - Verizon DSL (3)

· actions · 2010-Jan-27 7:30 am ·

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emccarron

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2010-Jan-27 7:45 am

Yet more info... Just dropped again. Grabbed these statistics:

Transceiver InformationDown Stream PathUp Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec)3358 863
Margin (dB) -2.-8 4360.5
Line Attenuation (dB)25.0 0.0
Transmit Power (dBm)9.0 0.0

Now, I'm no expert, but that looks odd.

Unfortunately, my wife rebooted the modem as I was digging for more info. Guess I shouldn't have taught her that trick. [modem/router] Noticing a pattern... Net connectivity drops inte - Verizon DSL (4)

The DSL light did indeed drop momentarily on this one. No correspondence to phones ringing or anything. Next step is to isolate EVERYTHING from the modem...

· actions · 2010-Jan-27 7:45 am ·


Smith6612
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[modem/router] Noticing a pattern... Net connectivity drops inte - Verizon DSL (6)

Smith6612 to emccarron

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2010-Jan-27 7:47 am

to emccarron

Your margin for having ADSL2+ on that short of a line seems to be very low. If you have a NID, can you plug the modem into that?

· actions · 2010-Jan-27 7:47 am ·

emccarron
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emccarron

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2010-Jan-27 8:01 am

No NID, just an old arrestor -- but I'll disconnect everything else, hang a jack directly from it, and report back.

Thanks!

· actions · 2010-Jan-27 8:01 am ·

emccarron

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2010-Jan-27 8:10 am

With the modem 3' from the arrestor:

Transceiver RevisionA2pB020b3.d20h
Vendor ID Code4D54
Line ModeADSL_2plus
Data PathFAST

Transceiver InformationDown Stream PathUp Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec)3358863
Margin (dB)12.615.8
Line Attenuation (dB)25.010.4
Transmit Power (dBm)9.112.4

· actions · 2010-Jan-27 8:10 am ·

emccarron

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2010-Jan-27 8:23 am

And, with the modem back where it belongs:

Transceiver InformationDown Stream PathUp Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec)3358863
Margin (dB)13.117.1
Line Attenuation (dB)25.010.4
Transmit Power (dBm)8.312.4

11.6 to 13.1 ... Assuming higher s/n is better, 50% more signal? Wonder if I had a loose/oxidized connection and all my shuffling cleaned it up?

For some reason, my gut tells me it won't make a difference.

· actions · 2010-Jan-27 8:23 am ·


Smith6612
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Smith6612 to emccarron

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2010-Jan-27 8:59 am

to emccarron

It didn't seem to make much of a difference so I wouldn't think that your home's wiring may be causing the problem. Do you have voice service however? If so, do you hear noise such as buzzing or static on it?

· actions · 2010-Jan-27 8:59 am ·

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emccarron

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2010-Jan-27 9:11 am

Nope. Voice is clean. Perhaps a -tiny- 60hz hum, but I have to break dialtone, cover one ear, and strain to hear it. I've heard worse.

My next step is to replace the old primary arrestor with a new gas tube one and see what happens.

If I'm connected to the CO I assume I am, I can just about spit on it - can't be more than 3000' away from me, as the crow flies.

· actions · 2010-Jan-27 9:11 am ·

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2010-Jan-27 12:12 pm

Replaced the arrestor. New stats:

DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec)3358863
Margin (dB)27.116.7
Line Attenuation (dB)24.510.4
Transmit Power (dBm)6.712.3

Heck of a jump on downstream. Lets see what happens.

· actions · 2010-Jan-27 12:12 pm ·


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Smith6612

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2010-Jan-27 2:53 pm

Well you've found what was up with the DSL [modem/router] Noticing a pattern... Net connectivity drops inte - Verizon DSL (12). Those stats are plenty good for 7.1Mbps + FastPath should you be wondering about that too. Report back how everything goes!

You may also be coming out of a Remote Terminal (typically a small box or even a small building with telephone equipment in it) if you can't find the CO anywhere.

· actions · 2010-Jan-27 2:53 pm ·

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2010-Jan-27 7:03 pm

Knock wood, so far, so good ~5 hours and no drops.

Thanks for the assist!

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