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SLIDERS - are they needed for our league? (5)byGREENERRRR Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:28 am

Lots of SIM leagues are relying on SLIDERS to make gameplay more realistic - what do you think?

and if you think SLIDERS will help make our league realistic - what SLIDERS do we change (and how...) to accomplish this?

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SLIDERS - are they needed for our league? (11)byGREENERRRR Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:42 am

BTW - just noticed that STANDARD SLIDERS (the sliders that all leagues are set with) are already modified...

SLIDERS are normally all set at 50 but player skill is reduced considerably...

I think this may be how the game differentiates between ALLMADDEN and ALLPRO... should be interesting

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SLIDERS - are they needed for our league? (17)byCharlieHustle Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:37 am

I don't think there any legit reason to adjust the sliders. Playing online, the game seems pretty realistic to me. why try to fix something that ain't broke?

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SLIDERS - are they needed for our league? (23)byCharlieHustle Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:01 am

If anything, I say feel free to tweak the penalty sliders but leave everything else be.

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SLIDERS - are they needed for our league? (29)byMaddening isn't it? Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:46 am

Maybe adjust the offensive pass interference penalty. I keep getting it called on my O-line. Wtf is that? It has happen to me at least 10 times in the 28 games I've played. That needs fixed. It's on deep routes not on screens. I could understand on a screen, but a 20-30 yard pass downfield? Makes no sense.


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SLIDERS - are they needed for our league? (34)byweasel_ Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:42 pm

What's the story with this BS? You guys tweaking out the sliders or what ? I say leave the sh*t


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SLIDERS - are they needed for our league? (39)byGREENERRRR Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:36 pm

weasel_ wrote:What's the story with this BS? You guys tweaking out the sliders or what ? I say leave the sh*t

Ypu havent even bought the game (or played it...) - u need to play the game before you comment - or at least go to operation sports forums and read all the posts saying how OVERPOWERED the run game is - and how terrible the defense is - and the workaround sliders can bring to elliminate it...

thyere will be sliders adjustments - we have been researching which ones we will make - stay tuned for details...

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SLIDERS - are they needed for our league? (45)byRIPxPatTillman40 Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:37 pm

i think maybe lowering the runblocking and upping the reation time on def and tackeling would be all you really need, and maybe lower the qb accuracy slightly and Wr catching


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SLIDERS - are they needed for our league? (50)byGREENERRRR Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:20 pm

RIPxPatTillman40 wrote:i think maybe lowering the runblocking and upping the reation time on def and tackeling would be all you really need, and maybe lower the qb accuracy slightly and Wr catching

I think thats what being looked at - GeneralHon has been researching things...

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SLIDERS - are they needed for our league? (56)byMcNoob Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:20 pm

I could agree with some sliders being tweaked. It's way to easy to play offense; the option runs are just silly because of how effective they are. Playing defense against the run is too random because of how easy it is to break tackles.


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SLIDERS - are they needed for our league? (60)byCharlieHustle Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:25 pm

if you lower the run blocking, you'll have the same bullsh*t defenses stopping the run as in madden 13... y'all are f*cking retarded. play real defenses and stop with the gimmick zone blitz packages all game and you won't have trouble stopping the damn run... f*cking bums!!

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SLIDERS - are they needed for our league? (66)byweasel_ Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:25 am

Charlie you bugging ! I been getting full on trucked withLB when I'm coming in the whole unblocked. That should never happen ever. I don't know how to fix it but the offense is running down hill In this game big time it feels like. I haven't played any league play yet so I have no idea what it will be like. I like RipTillmams assessment. In gen Hon I trust.


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SLIDERS - are they needed for our league? (71)byGREENERRRR Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:17 pm

weasel_ wrote:Charlie you bugging ! I been getting full on trucked withLB when I'm coming in the whole unblocked. That should never happen ever. I don't know how to fix it but the offense is running down hill In this game big time it feels like. I haven't played any league play yet so I have no idea what it will be like. I like RipTillmams assessment. In gen Hon I trust.

we have to start somewhere - and Hon put a lot effort into this (plus he knows the game...) - These sliders are a good place to start (and its natural for them to evolve...) - If you look at all the successful SIM leagues in M25 - they all are using some combo of sliders...

Lets keep the comments coming - MAKE LOTS OF OBSERVATIONS - and after a significant sample size we can draw furthur conclusions and adjust sliders according - THE REPEAT THIS PROCESS until we have sliders we think are ideal!

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SLIDERS - are they needed for our league? (77)byGeneral_Hon Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:33 pm

Charlie Hustle said online ranked games play realistic and aren't broke.

That tells you everything you need to know.

Play now = realistic play...LOL

And yea, I didn't coach football or anything and I know nothing of stopping the run realistically. What do I know, we are all just retards according to Charlie Hustle lol wow

On a serious note, these sliders are all based on heavy research by guys that have been doing it for many many Maddens and have the time to test every little detail at Operation Sports. I tweaked them slightly but not much at all.

Also, to say adjust penalty sliders and nothing else also shows a lack of knowledge. The penalty sliders effect gameplay in a way that's almost buggy and the people who researched this have already proven it. Theya re not JUST penalty sliders.


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SLIDERS - are they needed for our league? (82)byCharlieHustle Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:06 pm

General_Hon wrote:Charlie Hustle said online ranked games play realistic and aren't broke.

That tells you everything you need to know.

Play now = realistic play...LOL

And yea, I didn't coach football or anything and I know nothing of stopping the run realistically. What do I know, we are all just retards according to Charlie Hustle lol wow

Okay, I apologize for spazzing out on you guys. lol... The name calling was definitely unnecessary.

But I didn't say "online ranked games play realistic", I said the gameplay online is pretty realistic... My point was that I didn't have a problem with the actual gameplay itself, therefore I didn't see the need to adjust the sliders, especially before the league even started.

How can the "experts" justify customizing the sliders on a brand new game, with a well publicized NEW game engine, only 2-3 weeks after the game launched? How can anyone master a game in less than a month, especially with limited competition because I'm sure they had the game before everyone else? That is the issue I have with this whole slider situation.

Are we using custom sliders because the game is heavily flawed? Or are we customizing the sliders because the game is significantly different from 13 and we are too lazy to practice and make adjustments to our antiquated style of play??

Let's not forget, this is a video game. It will never be 100% realistic...

And in online ranked games, I have yet to see a bunch of outlandish PI, holding, or offsides calls, to the point where the sliders needed to be lowered. Penalties are a part of the game. Just ask the Jets and Bucs fans. lol... BUT, I have seen users (and cpu defenders) get away with blatant PI by blocking his route and/or running into the receiver to stop him from catching the ball.

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SLIDERS - are they needed for our league? (88)byGeneral_Hon Wed Sep 11, 2013 11:10 pm

Charlie the penalty sliders aren't tweaked because of problems with penalties they are tweaked because they effect gameplay such as how well defenders react in coverage and how well o line blocks etc

You have to remember, much of what is in madden doesn't work the way it's SUPPOSED to so penalty sliders are not what they appear to be.


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